Thus,the Spurs wont trade Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, UNLESS, their team becomes better RIGHT NOW, highly unlikely based on the aforementioned players.

is basing opinions on speculation

Do you know what is real speculation? Thinking Manu will ever be healthy.

Manu brings something to the game very few other players can…umm..maybe Kobe…and umm…yeah…Kobe…that’s about it.

Hahaha. Greatest player of all-time or foreign prick who comes off the bench? I’ll go with Kobe and all of these guys:

LeBron James
Chris Paul
Dwight Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Derrick Rose
Danny Granger
Brandon Roy
Rashard Lewis
Kevin Durant
Joe Johnson
Devin Harris
David West
Vince Carter
Ben Gordon
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Rajon Rondo
Rudy Gay
O.J. Mayo
Andre Iguodala
LaMarcus Aldridge
Chauncey Billups
Jason Richardson
Al Thorton
Randy Foye
Eric Gordon
David Lee
Monta Ellis
Gerald Wallace
Jeff Green
Russell Westbrook
Thaddues Young
Josh Smith
Tayshawn Prince
Michael Beasley
Lamar Odom
Aaron Brooks
Kevin Love
Al Jefferson
Shaq
Antawn Jamison
Dirk Nowitzki
Pau Gasol
Al Harrington

I could go on for days.

17 – 22 points per game.

So the average of 15 points proves that wrong.

But I have skepticism for your basketball knowledge.

Ouch. .

There is simple no way the Spurs are going to trade Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.

Sources disagree.

Also, I believe you meant to say simply.

Name one super-contender next year that isn’t neck deep in luxury tax.

You can’t, but you also can’t call the Spurs a super contender. I am suppose to believe that a team that lost to the Mavs in 5 games in the first round last season (with homecourt advantage!) will become a super contender simply because they traded for Richard Jefferson? Look I know you live in Texas but get real.

Tony Parker is a HOF

Let’s see, he’s won two championships as a third banana and a championship MVP when the guy guarding him was Larry Hughes? I guess that means Gilbert Arenas is a hall-of-famer too.

one of the top 3 point guards in the game

I’d take Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose and Devin Harris over him without blinking.

He’s 27 and is at the peak of his career.

Foreign players don’t peak like normal athletes do.

The Championship Window for SA is 2 years, 3 tops (based on how far Duncan goes)

It looks like you accidentally typed SA instead of LA and Duncan instead of Bynum.

a headache(Rondo)

Popavich prides himself on being able to control head cases. Why else would they have made a strong push for Rasheed Wallace.

decent post defender (perkins)

Decent? Coming from a man who cheers for a team in which Matt Bonner started at center I am shocked by that understatement.

a complete no show in the playoffs (Andrew Bynum).

First off, where did you get this? Bynum is a Laker.

Second off, Bynum has a much better chance of making the hall-of-fame than Parker does.

Simple business sense tells you that Manu is untouchable b/c of his heritage (Latin).

This is true. The only latin player I would touch with a ten foot pole is Pau Gasol.

Even at 32, and injured, Manu posted a Per of 22 last season, good for 11th in the league.

The definition of PER: “PER Player Efficiency Rating is my overall rating of a player’s per-minute statistical production. The league average is 15.00 every season.”

A man made stat doesn’t impress me as much as, say the fact that Ginobli played in 42 games when the NBA regular season is 82 games. I also like to look at a career low in three point percentage and a career low in minutes.

It’s not like this guy is ever going to play a full season. He never has and he never will.

Also, if you took a look at the title once more, you’d see that I am simply asking a question. If it’s so ludicrous to think the Spurs would trade him, why were they fielding calls from him earlier this off-season?

It’s not like I am saying “OMG The Spurz need to Trade Tony Parka.”

I just made an argument that is logical when looking at the history of this team financially and looking at the competition around them in the West, of which they clearly don’t match up to, while presenting one trade scenario that I have heard thrown around multiple times.

But I have skepticism for your basketball knowledge. There is simple no way the Spurs are going to trade Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.

1. The Spurs have atypically paid the luxury tax this year. Why? Because that really is the only way to win. Name one super-contender next year that isn’t neck deep in luxury tax. The Spurs have paid the luxury tax to win, and they aren’t looking to save money.

2. Tony Parker is a HOF, and one of the top 3 point guards in the game. He’s 27 and is at the peak of his career. The Championship Window for SA is 2 years, 3 tops (based on how far Duncan goes). Except for Chris Paul and Deron Williams, there is no other point even remotely as skilled as Tony in penetration, which the Drive and Kick SA offense so desperately needs. Simple common sense dictates that no one is his right mind would trade a perfect PG for their offense for a headache(Rondo), a decent post defender (perkins), and a complete no show in the playoffs (Andrew Bynum).

3. On to Manu Ginobili. Simple business sense tells you that Manu is untouchable b/c of his heritage (Latin). Even at 32, and injured, Manu posted a Per of 22 last season, good for 11th in the league. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics. I can’t see the FO trading these guys unless they recieve some impact player, draft picks, and a real sweet deal.

What about a trade sending Tony Parker to LA Lakers for bynum?

Not a chance. Bynum is 21-years old and has the ceiling of a hall-of-famer if he can stay healthy. In fact, his production at age 20 was better than Robert Parish when he was 24.

Forcing Gasol to play center a whole game takes away his ability to play at the top of the post, which he is able to do when Bynum mans the middle.

LA get a true point guard who isnt a scoring machine, making it a 5 head monster starting five : TP-Kobe-Ronron-odom-Paul.

San antonio get bynum , who could succeed TD as their franchise player( if hes enough hungry)

Pop has worked with Tony Parker quite a bit and now Tony Parker has finally showed that he can be a leader. The Playoffs this year was evidence of that. The offense was run through Parker. With Ginobili out and Duncan playing on one leg, Parker had to lead the team.

Great example. Lost in five games in the first round with home court advantage.

The window for the Spurs is closing. I believe Duncan’s contract expires in two years and I don’t see him making a new contract after that. The Spurs want to win NOW.

I think the window for the Spurs is closed. Portland is emerging, Dallas improved, the Lakers have the better big three (Kobe, Gasol, Artest) and have a couple potential all-stars in their supporting case with Odom and Bynum, and Chris Paul is Chris Paul so it’s possible he takes his team over and makes a run.

And that’s just the West. I’d take Boston, Orlando, Cleveland and maybe even Miami over SA in the Finals.

With Rondo, you get a guy who is 4 years away from his prime and you can focus on rebuilding the team around him and Perkins, Blair and Jefferson while still competing for a lower playoff seed.

Oh I forgot to mention another thing: I love Tony Parker!

Of course you are.

he is one of the best shooters

Stop right there. The rest of your statement is invalid.

Parker shot over 50% from the field last season.

Much like LeBron James, Parker gets most of his points on lay-ups and tear drops, which improve his shooting percentage enormously.

Also anyone with a Kobe picture next to their posts isn’t looking out for the Spurs best interests.

Anyone with the username “tpfan” isn’t looking Tony Parker objectively.

@Miles:

It wont ever happen. The Spurs love being the NBA’s euro league team. They just drafted Nando De Colo (another FRENCH National) to back TP up.

That is the best argument against trading Parker, Ginobli or Duncan (all of which are foreign) that I have even seen.

@jimjule:

Parker is just 27. There are a lot of good miles left in him and he will continue to get ever better.

I’m not convinced of this. Parker has played more games than an American citizen because of his playing time in France as a member of a pro team and the National Team.

For example: Ricky Rubio, who has played in the Euro League since he was 16 years old, will not be as fresh when he is 30 as say Chris Paul who took the normal high school college route to the NBA. Plus, Parker is starting to develop and injury risk.

How many times has Rondo scored 55 in a game?

How many triple doubles does Tony Parker have in his career? Let me give you a hint in rhymes with hero. Yup, Parker has never scored 10 points in a game with 10 rebounds and 10 assists. Rondo did that three times last year, IN THE PLAYOFFS (read: twice against Derrick Rose).

The big thing that you have left out is the chemistry of the SPURS.

You think adding a 20 point scorer, Jefferson, to a team that already had two 20 point scorers, Parker and Duncan, won’t provide any challenges?

Adding a true point guard to this team and their system would be a much better move. Since you got Jefferson for nothing, just imagine he is coming in this deal too, then you have a 10/10/10 point guard, 12 point shooting guard, 20 point small forward, 20 point power forward and a 10 point center (Perkins, who many of you seem to be overlooking in this trade) that will crash to boards. With Parker, I feel that there will be problems determining who scores and who to design plays for when everybody wants to shoot.

Adding Richardson may force you writers to start talking about the SPURS big 4.

I still think it’s the big three skill wise. Parker, Duncan and Jefferson are your best three best players, and I don’t think Ginobli is good enough to be a star player anymore because of his desire to play for his country, which always leads to a new injury.

However, contract wise. It is the big four.

And hopefully, Mahinmi, Blair or maybe Mason can kick it up a notch and make it the big 5.

Not in a billion years.

Wouldn’t that make Jackson think even more seriously about his health induced retirement?

If you’re talking about Phil Jackson, you are wrong. I could be hooked up to an ivy and an oxygen machine, but I’m still sticking on the bench just to see the best player in the game night in and night out.