Should the Spurs Be Shopping Tony Parker?

Tony ParkerThe San Antonio Spurs have made quite a few moves to improve their ball club this off-season. From trading for Richard Jefferson to drafting DeJaun Blair, who seemed to be a lottery talent, in the second round of the 2009 NBA Draft, the Spurs front office is clearly making a push for a final title with Tim Duncan as the team leader.

However, adding Jefferson put the Spurs in a position they are not accustom to. Normally, the Spurs ran their franchise around three eight-figure contract guys, which has been Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli and Duncan over the past few years, and surrounded them with lesser cost players that worked hard – making the DeJuan Blair pick that much more meaningful and brilliant. Jefferson comes to San Antonio with a $14.2 million contract. That ranks second on the team, behind Tim Duncan’s $22.2 million deal, and in front of Tony Parker’s $12.6 million contract and Manu Ginobli’s $10.7 million paycheck. San Antonio will start this season with a $78,296,230 payroll, compared to $68,118,085 from last year. Looking at those numbers alone, I would have to assume that a team that has used the same formula for the last decade would trade off one of their more expensive players to get back to three players that make over $10 million.

To get this out of the way, the Spurs won’t trade Tim Duncan and it would be dumb for them to trade Jefferson again this season, so that narrows it down to two guys.

Of the four players that have big contracts, the first player the Spurs would look to deal would be Manu Ginobli. Ginobli is 32 years old and has a horrendous injury history, so it’s logical that the team would want to get rid of him even if they didn’t trade for Jefferson. Manu will be a free agent next season, so this is a good chance for the Spurs to get something back for him just in case they don’t plan on extending him. However, for the same reason, other teams may shy away from giving the Spurs something for a 32-year old that seems to care more about his country than his NBA team when they could get him as a free agent next year if they really wanted him.

And yes, that leaves Tony Parker, the 27 year old french man that seemingly burst on to the seen last season as an elite point guard in the NBA. After averaging 22 points and seven assists last season, Parker’s value will never be higher and the Spurs have a chance to turn one star player into a couple, while freeing up cap space. When looking at other teams in the league that could offer a young star point guard for Parker, a few come to mind. Devin Harris of the Nets was my initial thought, but that wouldn’t make much sense because in all honesty, I’d take Harris over Parker if I were starting a team today. However, my second idea was a little better.

Who says no to this?

Tony Parker and Ian Mahinmi to the Boston Celtics for Rajon Rondo, Brian Scalabrine, Bill Walker and Kendrick Perkins

The Celtics get a great point guard with championship experience as well as a young center that can develop as a back-up to Rasheed Wallace, while the Spurs get a younger point guard who has amazing potential and plays with championship experience (Oh, and he makes $10 million less) and a strong rebounding center that can handle guys like Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard come playoff time. Bill Walker and Brian Scalabrine were both throw-ins to get the money to measure out, but putting Matt Bonner on the same team as Scalabrine is an added benefit of this deal.

With the Celtics having off-season issues with Rondo, with rumors of him being dealt to Detroit coming from incidents between Rajon and Doc Rivers and the Spurs irking Tony Parker when they told him to come home from his international completion, it seems like the right time for this swap of all-star caliber point guards. Also, if this deal was completed, it would put the Spurs back at the usual $68,164,231 payroll.

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  • jams

    You are not very bright. Trade Parker for what? He is French and in your opinion Devin Harris what? Parker has been a winning pointguard in the NBA for six seasons and Devin Harris? Nothing. On all those days when Tim Duncan is doing his “Timmeeee’ thing and loafing around all over the court who do you think is running the show in SA? TP routinely eats Chris Paul and Steve Nash for lunch, Routinely, both in the regular season and the post season. And you would trade him for what?

  • tk7

    So Tony burst onto the scene this year did he? So he didn’t do much in the 2007 finals? He hasn’t been a key piece to the Spurs championship runs in the past? I disagree with taking Harris over Parker, but that’s just an opinion. Trading for Rondo would be absolutely stupid.

  • @jams: I never said Tony Parker was not a winning point guard. He is. Devin can do more things and he is more of a leader than TP. Parker has always been the second banana in SA, despite being the best player, so he has never had to become a true leader. You could not be more wrong about Parker eating up Chris Paul. The Spurs were 2-2 versus the Hornets.

    Head to Head:

    Game One: Spurs 83 – Hornets 90
    Parker: 20 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 turnovers, 4 fouls.
    Paul: 19 points, 6 rebounds, 12 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 2 fouls.

    Game Two: Hornets 98 – Spurs 105
    Paul: 26 points, 7 rebounds, 14 assists, 2 steals, 1 turnover, 3 fouls.
    Parker: 29 points, 4 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, 2 turnovers, 5 fouls.

    Game Three: Spurs 86 – Hornets 90
    Parker: 20 points, 3 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 turnovers, 3 fouls.
    Paul: 26 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 steals, 2 turnovers, 3 fouls.

    Game Four: Hornets 93 – Spurs 106
    Paul: 38 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 4 turnovers, 2 fouls.
    Parker: 25 points, 3 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover, 2 fouls.

    As you can see, Paul had the individual advantage in every single game and fills that statsheet routinely while Parker penetrates to score, doesn’t have a jump shot and racks up double digit assists (he only had 15 games with 10 or more and his most was 12 against the Rockets and Mavs) while CP3 had 55 games with 10 or more, 65 games with 9 or more and 69 games with 8 or more.

    Those numbers would also prove that Paul “eats” Parker because of the amount of fouls Parker committed because of his inability to stay with Paul off the dribble.

    Again, I agree that Parker is a winner and can play on a championship level, but he has benefited from playing with two other stars while flying under the radar to opponents up until last season when he was showcased with Manu hurt and Duncan fading.

    In my trade scenario, you are getting another proven winner in Rondo, that showed he is a triple-double waiting to happen in the playoffs, which is something Parker doesn’t do.

    @brian K: Thanks for the info Mr. K!

    @tk7: Parker has always been a good player, but last season he became a super star because he had to carry the Spurs. Without Duncan and Manu, the attention turned to Parker and he stepped up.

    Harris averaged 21 and 7 with the Nets last season, which is pretty good considering the talent around him – a rookie center and Vince Carter, who took points from him. Devin is the fastest player in the league and his defensive abilities are starting to come along as well. Plus Harris is younger.

    As for the trade. Look, I know the Spurs and their fans love Tony Parker, but he is going to turn 28 next year, and because of the recognition he gathered last season, his value will never be higher. You get back another championship point guard in Rondo, who was the best player on the Celtics last season, and he is just 23, so he can get better. With Parker, you’ve already seen his best. Don’t overlook getting back Kendrick Perkins in my trade either, he is a classic blue chipper who works hard to get over his under seven foot frame. He averaged around 12 and 12 in the playoffs, and that includes a series against Dwight Howard.

  • Robert

    The Spurs are not looking to shed one of the big 3 just because they took on a big contract. They know that they have go big in order to win another title. Just like the Lakers, Cavs, Magic and Celtics they’re gonna go and pay for big contracts for their success.

    Devin Harris is not as good as Tony Parker. He had an entire offense run through him and they got nothing out of that. He is one year younger than Parker. Not exactly a world’s difference there. I’d rather have Tony the more talented player if I were starting a team today.

    Likewise Rajon Rondo isn’t as good as either of them.

  • @Robert: The thing is, it’s not the big three anymore, they now have four star players, and it just seems more reasonable to continue to win with three big contracts, especially in this economic climate.

    It’s laughable to say that Tony Parker is better than Devin Harris and Harris has a much fresher pair of legs.

    Harris had similar if not better regular season stats and has a world record as the fastest man to dribble up and down a basketball court.

    Likewise Rajon Rondo isn’t as good as either of them.

    Playoff Stats:

    Parker against a sad Mavs team in five games: 28 points, 4 rebounds, and 6 assists.

    Rondo against the Bulls (= Head-to-Head with Derrick Rose) and the Eastern Conference Champion Magic: 17 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists.

    Not to mention 35 steals compared to Parker’s 6.

  • GO.52

    Im not sure that Tony Parker isnt a leader like you said;
    He clearly is.
    Try to take a look at France ‘s basketball team, imagine the spurs without a point guard like parker, i doubt they would have get any titles(when parker as a spurs).
    He learned from avery johnson, terry porter (both general point guard).

    Btw, should the lakers trade Kobe for something else, as they got odom+artest+gasol?
    should the magic trade Howard, as they got carter+lewis+nelson?
    should the celtic Cavs trade james, as they got shaq?

    lots of team have 4 good player, especially team who want to win now! The window is closing for Tim Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, VC,AI, etc

    I find it “normal” that team who wanna win it now, get weapon for it, adding another “star” to their core.

    remember the Bulls, they had Jordan-Pippen-Rodman-Kukoc, wanna talk about the Jailblazers, pistons with billups-Rip-prince-wallace2

    there is only miami in the 2000 who got their title with nearly just wade to get it

  • @GO.52: I never said that Tony Parker was not a leader, he just haven’t had to be the team leader with Duncan at the helm. I think he plays better without having to be that vocal presence and he would be in the same position in Boston with Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett being the officers of the clubhouse.

    Btw, should the lakers trade Kobe for something else, as they got odom+artest+gasol?
    should the magic trade Howard, as they got carter+lewis+nelson?
    should the Cavs trade james, as they got shaq?

    This article was not written because I think it is stupid for team’s to pay to win, because I think it is a legitimate plan. I wrote it because the Spurs are traditionally a team that does not do that.

    Look at L.A., they will be paying a massive amount of money over the luxury tax, just like Orlando will, and they will both compete for the title. It’s not a horrible thing if you don’t mind spending the money.

    But like I said, the Spurs don’t strike me as a team that would overpay to contend, as they have always been a playoffs team without doing so.

    I can see the Spurs saying this is the last hoorah for Tim Duncan, so if they are ever going to spend, now is the time.

    Anybody else who feels it’s stupid to trade Parker, let me ask you this: If the Spurs owner told R.C. Buford that he had to get the team back to the $68 million threshold, who would you want him to trade, Parker, Duncan, Ginobli, or Jefferson?

  • Kyle

    How would the Spurs be saving 10million in this trade? They have to to take on the contracts of the players mentioned and be within a certain percent for this trade to happen. It would help next year if they dump Ginobili and do not resign him. This year they would still be over the number(68million) you have put.

  • @Kyle: Thanks for point that out. I forgot to mention that the Spurs could convince the Celtics to payoff the Perkins and Rondo contract in order to get Parker.

  • GO.52

    I’ll go with ginobill. Of course that he is a tremendous player, when healthy, which didnt happen that much in the last 2 or 3 years.

    But as you said, “why get him now, when we can get him for free next year?”, obviously there might not be lots of team wanting to get ginobilli; but we were saying the same stuff for Quentin richardson, zack randolph, one got traded 4time in 2month, and others is nearly getting all NBA’s jersey .(like drew gooden)

    Also, i read some post on san antonio express or realgm, telling that the spurs nearly get +25% subscription for their arena’s seat in a month after they strenghten their roster with jefferson, mcdyess, ratliff and Blair.

    Just like others team, the spurs were losing money not making any roster moves, restarting the nba season with their old weapon + 1/2 rookies, and crashing their boat in playoff; owners asked what to do to contend, the answer was right and clear, “we need to spend more money”.

    Im agree with you on the fact that san antonio is a small market place, and never had to pay much to go in playoff every year since……Tim Duncan’s draft;
    San Antonio pay some prices too :

    - their rookies are always at the bottom of the 1st and secound round
    - they were with one of the oldest roster of the NBA (they might still be with finley, Mcdyess, ratliff).
    - success, everytime you doing something than nobody does, and its working, others copy you. (scouting world basketball player oberto, scola, ginobilli, parker, mahinmi,splitter, de colo ….)

  • I like the Parker to Celtics for Rondo deal. Celtics get a calm cool and collected point guard who is wiser then Rondo. While SA gets a little younger and possibly top 3 PG in the league. Rondo starting PG with Greg Popvich pulling the strings, thats a SCARY (in a good way!) combo!

  • @Radoja: I agree. I think that Rondo has an upside that is better than Parker’s current play, and that is the reason the Spurs would make the trade as well as getting rid of some salary.

  • Will Myers

    I can totally see why the Celtics would make the trade, but I don’t see Rondo working out very well for the Spurs. Why?

    #1- Contract extension…Rondo will be looking for the same kind of money that Parker is making so the Spurs wouldn’t actually save any money if they planned to keep Rondo.

    #2- Attitude. A lot of Rondo’s supposed dissatisfaction comes from being the fourth best player on the Celtics, and he would still be the fourth best player on the Spurs.

    #3- Coaching. If a “player’s coach” like Doc Rivers is having problems with Rondo, you think a “my way or the highway” coach like Pop is going to do any better?

    Frankly, I think the Spurs would rather have Perkins.

  • @Will Myers: The Spurs would get Rondo at a bargain for this year. Next season, you let Ginobli walk and use that money to give Rondo a $11 million deal.

    he would still be the fourth best player on the Spurs.

    I disagree. Factoring in age and health, I’d rank them Parker, Jefferson, Duncan, Ginobli. With Rondo, I’d rank them Jefferson, Rondo, Duncan, Ginobli.

    If a “player’s coach” like Doc Rivers is having problems with Rondo, you think a “my way or the highway” coach like Pop is going to do any better?

    I think of Pop like like Bill Belichick. Randy Moss goes from cancer in Oakland to championship wide receiver in New England.

    Frankly, I think the Spurs would rather have Perkins.

    If the Spurs wanted to make a trade for him, they could do a deal focused Ginobli/Perkins. Financially it would take some work (the best I could do off the top of my head that works money wise is this) but if the two sides wanted to get it done, they could.

  • tpfan

    This is definitely a bad trade. Rondo is a good point guard but not the scorer Tony is and doesn’t have the offensive game that Tony does, and did you really say TP doesn’t have a jump shot pretty sure he is one of the best shooters from about 18 to 19 feet off the screen and roll. Parker shot over 50% from the field last season. Rondo’s jumpshot isn’t half of what Tony’s is. A lot of Rondo’s assists also come on alley oops to KG or some of the other bigs on the Celtics, the Spurs are not a high flying team and Rondo’s assists would suffer from this fact. Also Parker’s (and to some extent duncan) assists would be much greater but many times the Spurs swing the ball around the three so the initial “good” shot created by Parker’s penetration is passed up and swung around to created a great shot for another player. Perkins for Mahimi is a bad idea too. Perkins is not quick enough to match up with Lamar Odom type players and has already reach his ceiling as a player. Ian gives the Spurs a versitile big with quickness and athleticism and has a far higher ceiling. The Spurs haven’t invested four years into Ian to trade him now.

    Also anyone with a Kobe picture next to their posts isn’t looking out for the Spurs best interests.

  • Miles

    It wont ever happen. The Spurs love being the NBA’s euro league team. They just drafted Nando De Colo (another FRENCH National) to back TP up. They had A Great Draft, and now have a solid team with depth. I think the Spurs understand they needed to spend a bit more to win this year. I do really enjoy the idea of Rondo to Detroit tho. I think they should do that at any cost. If the Pistons plan on having a rebuilding year they may as well get rid of a 2 guard (since we have 3 that can start) and get a TRUE PG. Which Detroit has not had since #11 left the league.

  • jimjule

    Mark, As I see it, all of you suggestions would hurt the SPURS! TD would pitch a fit if TP were traded for Harris or Rondo. Pop has worked very hard to get Parker to the level he is at now and remember Parker is just 27. There are a lot of good miles left in him and he will continue to get even better. How many times has Rondo scored 55 in a game? The big thing that you have left out is the chemistry of the SPURS. It’s all about the team, not the individual, that’s why Buford didn’t make an offer to Gooden. If the Spurs were going to trade anyone of the big 3 it would probably be Ginobli and that would depend on how good a comeback he makes in 09-10. Adding Richardson may force you writers to start talking about the SPURS big 4 and hopefully, Mahinmi, Blair or maybe Mason can kick it up a notch and make it the big 5. Wouldn’t that make Jackson think even more seriously about his health induced retirement?

  • jimjule

    Error, Mean’t to type Jefferson not Richardson.

  • The Augustus

    I have to agree with jimjule. Pop has worked with Tony Parker quite a bit and now Tony Parker has finally showed that he can be a leader. The Playoffs this year was evidence of that. The offense was run through Parker. With Ginobili out and Duncan playing on one leg, Parker had to lead the team. As Duncan edges towards retirement, look to Parker to lead the team.

    As for the Spurs taking on more expensive contracts now than they ever have in franchise history, desperate times call for desperate measures. The window for the Spurs is closing. I believe Duncan’s contract expires in two years and I don’t see him making a new contract after that. The Spurs want to win NOW. In order to win, they need to have the best. There is so much more talent in this league than there has been in recent memory. The Big Three can’t get it done alone; that is why they need a fourth man. Yes traditionally the Spurs have been thrifty but those days are gone now. The Spurs want to win and they are prepared to do whatever it takes.

    Chemistry is another excellent point made by jimjule. Tony Parker knows the system; he’s running the system. If we traded Parker, it would make the system even crazier than it is now. The Spurs remodeled themselves this summer. It will take a good chunk of the year for Jefferson, McDyess, Blair, Mahinmi, and even Ginobili to learn their roles. Popovich has a lot to manage right now and trading Parker would be a bad idea. It’s an interesting article but it’s not very practical.

    Oh I forgot to mention another thing: I love Tony Parker!

  • @tpfan:

    he is one of the best shooters

    Stop right there. The rest of your statement is invalid.

    Parker shot over 50% from the field last season.

    Much like LeBron James, Parker gets most of his points on lay-ups and tear drops, which improve his shooting percentage enormously.

    Also anyone with a Kobe picture next to their posts isn’t looking out for the Spurs best interests.

    Anyone with the username “tpfan” isn’t looking Tony Parker objectively.

    @Miles:

    It wont ever happen. The Spurs love being the NBA’s euro league team. They just drafted Nando De Colo (another FRENCH National) to back TP up.

    That is the best argument against trading Parker, Ginobli or Duncan (all of which are foreign) that I have even seen.

    @jimjule:

    Parker is just 27. There are a lot of good miles left in him and he will continue to get ever better.

    I’m not convinced of this. Parker has played more games than an American citizen because of his playing time in France as a member of a pro team and the National Team.

    For example: Ricky Rubio, who has played in the Euro League since he was 16 years old, will not be as fresh when he is 30 as say Chris Paul who took the normal high school college route to the NBA. Plus, Parker is starting to develop and injury risk.

    How many times has Rondo scored 55 in a game?

    How many triple doubles does Tony Parker have in his career? Let me give you a hint in rhymes with hero. Yup, Parker has never scored 10 points in a game with 10 rebounds and 10 assists. Rondo did that three times last year, IN THE PLAYOFFS (read: twice against Derrick Rose).

    The big thing that you have left out is the chemistry of the SPURS.

    You think adding a 20 point scorer, Jefferson, to a team that already had two 20 point scorers, Parker and Duncan, won’t provide any challenges?

    Adding a true point guard to this team and their system would be a much better move. Since you got Jefferson for nothing, just imagine he is coming in this deal too, then you have a 10/10/10 point guard, 12 point shooting guard, 20 point small forward, 20 point power forward and a 10 point center (Perkins, who many of you seem to be overlooking in this trade) that will crash to boards. With Parker, I feel that there will be problems determining who scores and who to design plays for when everybody wants to shoot.

    Adding Richardson may force you writers to start talking about the SPURS big 4.

    I still think it’s the big three skill wise. Parker, Duncan and Jefferson are your best three best players, and I don’t think Ginobli is good enough to be a star player anymore because of his desire to play for his country, which always leads to a new injury.

    However, contract wise. It is the big four.

    And hopefully, Mahinmi, Blair or maybe Mason can kick it up a notch and make it the big 5.

    Not in a billion years.

    Wouldn’t that make Jackson think even more seriously about his health induced retirement?

    If you’re talking about Phil Jackson, you are wrong. I could be hooked up to an ivy and an oxygen machine, but I’m still sticking on the bench just to see the best player in the game night in and night out.

  • @The Augustus:

    Pop has worked with Tony Parker quite a bit and now Tony Parker has finally showed that he can be a leader. The Playoffs this year was evidence of that. The offense was run through Parker. With Ginobili out and Duncan playing on one leg, Parker had to lead the team.

    Great example. Lost in five games in the first round with home court advantage.

    The window for the Spurs is closing. I believe Duncan’s contract expires in two years and I don’t see him making a new contract after that. The Spurs want to win NOW.

    I think the window for the Spurs is closed. Portland is emerging, Dallas improved, the Lakers have the better big three (Kobe, Gasol, Artest) and have a couple potential all-stars in their supporting case with Odom and Bynum, and Chris Paul is Chris Paul so it’s possible he takes his team over and makes a run.

    And that’s just the West. I’d take Boston, Orlando, Cleveland and maybe even Miami over SA in the Finals.

    With Rondo, you get a guy who is 4 years away from his prime and you can focus on rebuilding the team around him and Perkins, Blair and Jefferson while still competing for a lower playoff seed.

    Oh I forgot to mention another thing: I love Tony Parker!

    Of course you are.

  • GO.52

    What about a trade sending Tony Parker to LA Lakers for bynum?

    LA get a true point guard who isnt a scoring machine, making it a 5 head monster starting five : TP-Kobe-Ronron-odom-Paul.

    San antonio get bynum , who could succeed TD as their franchise player( if hes enough hungry)

  • @GO.52:

    What about a trade sending Tony Parker to LA Lakers for bynum?

    Not a chance. Bynum is 21-years old and has the ceiling of a hall-of-famer if he can stay healthy. In fact, his production at age 20 was better than Robert Parish when he was 24.

    Forcing Gasol to play center a whole game takes away his ability to play at the top of the post, which he is able to do when Bynum mans the middle.

  • Mark , you have creative ideas, and are unafraid to write on them.

    But I have skepticism for your basketball knowledge. There is simple no way the Spurs are going to trade Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.

    1. The Spurs have atypically paid the luxury tax this year. Why? Because that really is the only way to win. Name one super-contender next year that isn’t neck deep in luxury tax. The Spurs have paid the luxury tax to win, and they aren’t looking to save money.

    2. Tony Parker is a HOF, and one of the top 3 point guards in the game. He’s 27 and is at the peak of his career. The Championship Window for SA is 2 years, 3 tops (based on how far Duncan goes). Except for Chris Paul and Deron Williams, there is no other point even remotely as skilled as Tony in penetration, which the Drive and Kick SA offense so desperately needs. Simple common sense dictates that no one is his right mind would trade a perfect PG for their offense for a headache(Rondo), a decent post defender (perkins), and a complete no show in the playoffs (Andrew Bynum).

    3. On to Manu Ginobili. Simple business sense tells you that Manu is untouchable b/c of his heritage (Latin). Even at 32, and injured, Manu posted a Per of 22 last season, good for 11th in the league. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics. I can’t see the FO trading these guys unless they recieve some impact player, draft picks, and a real sweet deal.

  • @Fred Thomas:

    But I have skepticism for your basketball knowledge.

    Ouch. :( .

    There is simple no way the Spurs are going to trade Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.

    Sources disagree.

    Also, I believe you meant to say simply.

    Name one super-contender next year that isn’t neck deep in luxury tax.

    You can’t, but you also can’t call the Spurs a super contender. I am suppose to believe that a team that lost to the Mavs in 5 games in the first round last season (with homecourt advantage!) will become a super contender simply because they traded for Richard Jefferson? Look I know you live in Texas but get real.

    Tony Parker is a HOF

    Let’s see, he’s won two championships as a third banana and a championship MVP when the guy guarding him was Larry Hughes? I guess that means Gilbert Arenas is a hall-of-famer too.

    one of the top 3 point guards in the game

    I’d take Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose and Devin Harris over him without blinking.

    He’s 27 and is at the peak of his career.

    Foreign players don’t peak like normal athletes do.

    The Championship Window for SA is 2 years, 3 tops (based on how far Duncan goes)

    It looks like you accidentally typed SA instead of LA and Duncan instead of Bynum.

    a headache(Rondo)

    Popavich prides himself on being able to control head cases. Why else would they have made a strong push for Rasheed Wallace.

    decent post defender (perkins)

    Decent? Coming from a man who cheers for a team in which Matt Bonner started at center I am shocked by that understatement.

    a complete no show in the playoffs (Andrew Bynum).

    First off, where did you get this? Bynum is a Laker.

    Second off, Bynum has a much better chance of making the hall-of-fame than Parker does.

    Simple business sense tells you that Manu is untouchable b/c of his heritage (Latin).

    This is true. The only latin player I would touch with a ten foot pole is Pau Gasol.

    Even at 32, and injured, Manu posted a Per of 22 last season, good for 11th in the league.

    The definition of PER: “PER Player Efficiency Rating is my overall rating of a player’s per-minute statistical production. The league average is 15.00 every season.”

    A man made stat doesn’t impress me as much as, say the fact that Ginobli played in 42 games when the NBA regular season is 82 games. I also like to look at a career low in three point percentage and a career low in minutes.

    It’s not like this guy is ever going to play a full season. He never has and he never will.

    Also, if you took a look at the title once more, you’d see that I am simply asking a question. If it’s so ludicrous to think the Spurs would trade him, why were they fielding calls from him earlier this off-season?

    It’s not like I am saying “OMG The Spurz need to Trade Tony Parka.”

    I just made an argument that is logical when looking at the history of this team financially and looking at the competition around them in the West, of which they clearly don’t match up to, while presenting one trade scenario that I have heard thrown around multiple times.

  • OMG…I swear…everyone is basing opinions on speculation. I pray that Manu comes back a healthy player. Healthy, Manu brings something to the game very few other players can…umm..maybe Kobe…and umm…yeah…Kobe…that’s about it. Manu is a winner…even hurt (which he was the other 42 games he actually played in last year). Watch the replays of last year’s games and pay attention to Manu’s stance and walk..you can tell this poor boy is playing hurt, yet he still managed to score 17 – 22 points per game.

  • is basing opinions on speculation

    Do you know what is real speculation? Thinking Manu will ever be healthy.

    Manu brings something to the game very few other players can…umm..maybe Kobe…and umm…yeah…Kobe…that’s about it.

    Hahaha. Greatest player of all-time or foreign prick who comes off the bench? I’ll go with Kobe and all of these guys:

    LeBron James
    Chris Paul
    Dwight Howard
    Carmelo Anthony
    Dwyane Wade
    Chris Bosh
    Derrick Rose
    Danny Granger
    Brandon Roy
    Rashard Lewis
    Kevin Durant
    Joe Johnson
    Devin Harris
    David West
    Vince Carter
    Ben Gordon
    Paul Pierce
    Kevin Garnett
    Rajon Rondo
    Rudy Gay
    O.J. Mayo
    Andre Iguodala
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Chauncey Billups
    Jason Richardson
    Al Thorton
    Randy Foye
    Eric Gordon
    David Lee
    Monta Ellis
    Gerald Wallace
    Jeff Green
    Russell Westbrook
    Thaddues Young
    Josh Smith
    Tayshawn Prince
    Michael Beasley
    Lamar Odom
    Aaron Brooks
    Kevin Love
    Al Jefferson
    Shaq
    Antawn Jamison
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Pau Gasol
    Al Harrington

    I could go on for days.

    17 – 22 points per game.

    So the average of 15 points proves that wrong.

  • Fred Jones

    Actually, the Spurs are a super-contender. Only LA, and arguably Orlando is better. But whatever way you see it doesnt matter, beacuse THE SPURS WANT TO WIN RIGHT NOW. They’ve made that very, very clear. They trading aging veterans for Richard Jefferson, forked out the cash for Antonio McDyess, and went over the luxury tax to sign guys like DeJuan Blair (draft pick) and Marcus Haislip. Pop’s recent quote “If I don’t win [the championship], I should be fired” tells us that the Spurs believe that they have a legit shot at the title.

    Thus,the Spurs wont trade Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili, UNLESS, their team becomes better RIGHT NOW, highly unlikely based on the aforementioned players.

  • @Fred Jones: So I guess the Spurs will have a new coach next season.

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